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Sunday, October 23, 2011

Religious plea from former co-worker

It isn't rare that I get messages like the following.

Always from someone who knows better than I do how I should live my life. I'd like your comments on how to reply to stuff like this, sent from a former co-worker.

A little background, I was never close to this guy, never liked him, and he had nothing to do with me. On one occasion, when we had a particularly stressful situation, I had to call in someone to replace him and relieve him of his duties, because he couldn't handle the responsibility at the time.

So now, a couple years later, he writes....

Rich,

I have gotten copied on a number of facebook postings submitted by you and Deanna. After reading the last few of them and being somewhat taken aback by some of the content, I feel led in my spirit to write you.

With respect to your choice to believe the way you want, I must say that I am concerned for you. We talked one night at KOMO about your traumatic experience with your ex-wife and the church you pastored in the South. At that time as I recalled, you expressed anger and bitterness at what was done to you.

It's understandable you would feel that way. However, that wasn't God's doing. And deep down inside I believe you realize that.

I'm sad that both you and your wife embrace atheism. I'm doubly sad for you because you have been exposed to the word of God and you have no excuse.

Again, what you choose to believe is your business. However as a friend and someone who cares, I must tell you that you have taken the bait of satan. He'll destroy you if you let him. Turn back to the Lord. He is real and He loves you.

I'll pray for you. I value you as a friend.

Sincerely,

former nor particularly close co-worker.

So how would you handle this crap?

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Update: I realized that we never added our direct message replies to this person. We both went a little harsh on him, but I think sometimes someone needs to be told how rude they are being because they will never know it any other way.
I copied the former co-worker the link to this post so he could see the replies. He basically went all pascal's wager.... here was my final reply:

"It's a shame you can't spend five minutes to read through the entire blog. It shows just how much you care about this, and to quote a famous xtian saying, "No one cares how much you know until they know how much you care."

If you were open to discussion, I'd welcome that. But since you are only interested in making an arrogant statement then acting all butt-hurt when no one likes your views, I think we can both see what your lame attempt is made of.

Don't contact me anymore. I'm happy to leave you in your ignorance.

to finish with YOUR line... If he is real... I'll see your arrogant and apathetic ass in hell.

Thanks,

Rich"

and then this addition from Deanna Joy:

"Just add a bit to what Rich said:

I am truly insulted by your inability to contact ME about the things you learned from your "friendship" with me. Am I not your intellectual equal? Am I the insolent property of my husband that needs to be chastised through him?

I can answer those two questions easily. No, I am absolutely not your intellectual equal. Your refusal to engage shows you haven't thought for a moment or read a single word of the things I have said or shared. While your religion tells you I am below and behind you, reality shows you are not anywhere near on my level.

And yes, in your eyes I am, or you would have sent me a message directly about the things you are concerned with. And that's all I need to know about how you feel about women."

Janet Heimlich - Religious Child Maltreatment - Episode 38

Journalist Janet Heimlich's chilling book "Breaking Their Will: Shedding Light On Religious Child Maltreatment," does exactly what its title says. In the process, you may discover you are not the horrific human your childhood led you to believe. Once you realize that, you can attack the issues and voices that still abuse you daily in your life as an adult.

Janet's book is certainly one you will want to read. Her website has a very extensive list of resources and help for survivors of religious-based child abuse.

Breaking Their Will

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Saturday, October 15, 2011

Moral Politics - Episode 37

Rich was interviewed on February 13, 2009 on a cable access program in Seattle about "Cult Recruiting." Here, we replay that program, hosted by Valerie Tarico, produced by Bill Alford.

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